that's a step in the right direction. the problem is last week in chicago, there was a raid looking for a criminal. but they picked up 30 some odd workers at the plant and the very people that i came to my office, one of them was a person who had come to my office, with their children, the children got a work permit and now the government is working to deport their dad. they need their parents. i understand going after criminals, gang bangers, drug dealers people who do harm. but we are damaging so many families. >> you said earlier this month, the president was essentially missing on the issue of immigration reform. what did you mean about that? >> yeah, let me explain that, as we know, we have conversations and that is why i like live conversations, it's all listened to at the same time. >> tell me. >> they asked, the senate was doing something and i said i would like to see the president do more. i i said missing in action in terms of the legislative process that was going on there. on the other hand, it's very clear t